Splendid work Renapad! You are one of those souls who push the envelope of what Poser can accomplish. Without yourself, Thorne, Travelor, Bushi, TimLaubach, Allieleurah, and a host of others (some who seem to have left the ranks) ,Poser characters would all be dorks with plastic hair helmets! I'm with Mike on the face Cr2 for the lass on the left-she looks like someone I used to know (would not object to seeing her posted!). Eric Walters ewalt1@ix.netcom.com