Dear Dalinise: I wanted to thank you a) for replying to this convoluted thread, b) for making black characters (try illustrating tropical diseases in a talk without having figures who are dark), and c) for listening to the interests of the black users of Poser. I don't think you or Daz did anything wrong or meant any ill will whatsoever. I view this more like correcting someone for mispronouncing my name; my guess is that Daz doesn't have a whole lot of black people to even ask about these things. This thread seems like it has gotten much too personal at various points. Finally, is this an important topic? Well, even though your characters are beautifully done and I will purchase then, when I saw the name and a black face, I passed over them because I thought it was another one of those Vicky or Michael's in blackface. There is a Roman centurion on the same page;is it important if the costuming is accurate? Plenty of people will buy it any way... None of this is going to solve the great world problems but it might encourage your less than typical Poser user to buy your product Respectfully nemesis10