I dip in this pool yet again... I don't think I particularly want anyone's guilt and I agree that all of this stuff (race, sex, nationality, religion, political ideology) is a pretty trivial compared to the important things in life such as staying alive, advancing knowledge and art, feeding the starving etc... One major benefit of this discussion is that I probably would have never known that there were other black Poser users... I did want to add some observations. It seems to me that we are using "black" in two different ways; my skin tone is a golden brown with reddish brown hair and hazel green eyes but I am black in the way that a caucasian is not necessarily from the Caucasus'. This is my history, my culture, my parents and great-great grandparents (okay, some of them). Second, I think this thread originally started as being about the concept of politeness i.e... if Mrs. Jones likes to be refered to as Mrs. Jones, you don't call her by her first name and never as "Brown Sugar". Third, we all like Daz and would all like them to sell as many products to as many people as possible so politeness benefits them too!