Thank you, I'm glad that people are finding my stuff useful. :^) The info for P5 does seem to suggest that they'll be upgrading the Poser kids, but have you seen the system requirements? I for one am still working on a poor old PII 266. I don't know when the Mac version will be out either. So, I'll keep on doing this stuff and drool from afar at the new toys Curious Labs are bringing out until I can scrounge enough bits to build myself a better PC and save up for the Poser upgrade. I do like the look of the new dynamic hair though. Me want, me want!