no probs, http://groups.msn.com/KUMOS3DWEB , note youll have to get a passport which is free, then to you need to join my site which is automatic instant membership when you apply, then you can access the downloads page, HENCE thats why i have to get hosting sorted, coz this sort of link for freestuff downloads are not allowed here, also i hold a monthly contest with prizes, also there are galleries, downloads, and a huge amount of textures, links forum, and all the usual stuff. thanks for all the feedback take care KUMO