"Yes, any program that can read obj files, will read data from a pp2 file." "*any" might be a bit too strong a term :-) I used to edit the PP2 files, and throw away anything but the v, vt, and f statements. I went through several conversion utilities (which I used for rotating, rescaling, that sort of thing) before I settled on the ones I use now. At least a few of them would not read the OBJ files I created because they all the lines were indented two tabs. I had to remove the tabs before they would accept them. This was long ago, and many utilities away, so I can't name specifics. But if you just rename the suffix to ".obj" and your particular utility says "huh?", that might be the problem. Lynn Grant Castle Development Group