Sure, Vasquez, I'll put up a tut tomorrow... it's tedious, but the actual render time was jack since the image is so small. The first take actually had more detail, 'cause I turned AA off completely. But I liked the slightly softer look better (imagine that!). And, Groin, now that I think about it what happened was that I made the scene at work, on my Pentium 2/266/64MB machine, in Bryce 4. Slapped it on my little Smartcard (which by a twist of fate also is 64 MB!), brought it home where I only have Bryce 5 now and let it run on my home network... It seems to be the way of things these days, as I'm more creative in my spare time at work than at home, drunk, and distracted... (smirks)