I'm lazy about that stuff. I really don't surf much. Think I tried to upgrade once at Micro@$$!. They told me I could go to some 4.x something else. My brother who is an IS wizard said it was a bad version and cursed under his breathe something I couldn't quite make out. I'll get around to IE5. What else can I do? Until buisness comes around to Linux and everything changes, we are all screwed.