I think these renders look great, but it would help to see more renders of textures that don't have, say, wetness painted onto the texture. Colm's beach baby looks great, but I would like to see even Daz's basic maps for Vicky. Remember that two years ago people weren't doing p4 renders like they are now. It took a lot of information sharing, experimenting, and the efforts of a whole community to really push the limits of Poser to get the types of renders we want. I have the utmost confidence that P5 will offer the same depth.