so Bill Gates really is the Antichrist then, what a surprise. The only problem with the info on that page Allen9 is that you can turn off all the spying software, you don't have to let Microsoft scan your harddrive or download anything & the 3 times I've reinstalled so far I've not had to give them any personal details at all, nothing ever connects to the internet without my permission,plus I don't keep any personal details on the harddrive except my passwords for rosity & other sites of a similar nature. Rob