Blitter, I do not agree. I look at Posette5 and I find her very much like a real everyday woman (except for shoulders as someone noted, and lower stomach where in most women the "swelling" usually follows contour of legs line and not that of abdominal muscles). On the contrary I look at Victoria 2 and I find her very sexy but as unlikely as any top model could be - including silicon breasts of course. So Posette5 receives my double thumbs-up. :-) I hope joints at elbows and knees will be better than Posette4 though.