I have a copy of 3dSM R3, still on that learning curve. Many of the import and export filters just don't seem to give me the results I want. (IE solid figures) And for some odd reason the DFX files I export just can't be read as solids in the CAD/CAM software. Ill definitely try to export to export to 3ds, and vrml and see if it helps. (Quick Note: I have not seen the CAD/CAM software for this project, nor have I seen any of the machines that will carve it. This has been a lot of trial and error trying to find a file type that can be imported into the CAD/CAM software) I really appreciate your help and anyone elses suggestions too.