I can second Genny's recommendation. Brycetech's critters are extremely well put together. (Use the dials, not the mouse, though!) DAZ also has a bee, but this one is fatter and furrier and more ferocious-looking (and it would be easier to coat her back legs with pollen and pixeldust). I do not own Ken's hummingbird. I'm not sure where it was offered for sale (since I knew it was out there). IIRC, it was a prize in a contest more than a year ago. DAZ has a songbird by Anton which looks quite nice, and can be sparkled up a bit in the map or the lighting. Sometimes modelers take down their older work. It may not be representative of their current skill or they want to fix it or they need to clear space on the server or their bandwidth usage resembles the steppes after the invading hordes have twice passed. However, if you ask via email or IM, they can usually find it in their archives. Carolly