I was able to make the hands poseable (the morphed hand positions were conflicting with the pudgy fingers, so they didn't work out). Instead of being a morph target, I had to use the ful body morph as a replacement object for Mike. I want to make this guy freely available. Is it kool to distribute him and have the users decode the OBJ using OBJ-Action mover? I seem to recall some legal ramblings involving Mike and Vicky 2.0. What is DAZ 3D's policy on using the OBJ-Action Mover, or a similar tool? Konan