I'd still rather eat the cost than see Daz go out of business (no Vicky 3, that would be a real disaster!) -Adam if daz went out of business...i think....the new shopping function in p5 would make it very easy for the same group of folks who have been creating for daz to set up individual shops via cl...not sure how this is gonna work, but, i know it sounds like a wonderful idea for 3rd party creators. my kids got me a bunch of daz stuff the christmas, and, mother's day before last. i was sooooo amazingly happy to open my email and find the download links. of course, that was a while back....i couldn't get anton's pony to work right...and, i mentioned it in forum. he sent me instructions, and, like won my heart as a wonderful merchant. but, last holidays...after the blackhearted/steffyzz threads....i did not tell them what i really wanted.....god forbid i get accused of thievery. sigh...i like purses, and wallets. they were some swell gifts...but, nothing that brought actual tears of joy. one of these days, i will put my junk into one of those new purses....and, go to work. daz could go out of business. but, folks like anton will remain....and continue with their "must haves" for poserdom. as for warez...it sucks. so do child kidnappings, car jackings, drive by shootings, etc. yet, i can't go about in MY world accusing people, or making them feel small because i think they MIGHT have cheated their finance company on their vehicles. come on....some of the attitudes from our merchants remind me of the spanish inquisition. why in this virtual world is it okay to insult ones clients?