And both Deb and Martin are some of the nicest people you can hope to meet... and, yet...when i first came here...i just wanted to be a part of this site. i commented on many of her pictures. she has yet to comment on one of mine. (and, guys....i get alot of comments, when i get a chance to post.) i have never gotten a "thank you" for commenting on any of her gallery images....yet, many others have taken the time to drop a line. martin...he does very nice work. i have never tried to get to know him. debbiem...i felt snubbed. so, she may be one of the "nicest" to you. but, perhaps to some of the rest of us, the perception is different. obviously, she has time to look at the gallery. obviously, she has time....from what i see in this thread, to post replies. now, i have seen her...omg...i am speechless...let me pick my jaw up off the floor replies to gallery pics by friends. now, i have seen an ascerbic reply because she did not feel she was given the proper "tribute" by someone who had purchased something from her. i have yet to see her being just plain ol'....nicest people you can hope to meet... wanderin' off wondering if someone could actually be "nice" to me here, because they knew i would whip out my credit card for their newest creation....as opposed to being...somewhat rude, to rude because they know that i tend to make my own stuff, and use the cc for reality issues. so much to ponder. and, no...was just not saying this because i feel the need for flattering comments. eowynn consistently points out the flaws in my renders....i respect her talent to the nth degree...and, think she is as nice a person as you could want to meet in cyberspace.