Hi Thanks for the heads up Mateo. I actualy figured as much, my father kept tropical freshwater fish for years and won many prizes. But I'm a bit short on diferent fish specimens, the ones I found at toucan's site to my mind were either too modern i.e tuna etc or too small to be enlarged such as the goldfish and tetras etc. So I picked the 'oddest' looking fish I could for the plesiosaur to hunt. As always though I would appreciate any information where I could get more accurate models. ernyoka1 thanks for the link I might get round to trying to model an Ichthyosaur one of these days what i'd like, hint hint.. is an amonite of nautilid, possibly a conversion of mitch's shell (I don't have the skills yet to produce spines webs and tenticles yet. thanks everyone Dave