It's not you personally. I have so many tutes printed up and am trying everything. But what gets me really mad is that the Poser manual says one thing that sounds so simple and that's a darn lie. I've followed their instructions to a t with no results. The Bryce manual sucks too and they are also Metacreations. Every bit of info is from the net and everyone has a different way of doing it. I'm one who is self taught by reading. In my younger days I've taught myself to paint in various media including etching and became proficient enough to support me and my 5 kids so I know I'm not a dummy unless old age is causing me a mental block. However in my later years I taught myself how to quilt and now teach the procedure. Have had my work all over the world and have a book coming out about it. I've also taught myself how to design a web page. I cannot understand why this prog brings me to the point of utter stupidity. I can manipulate Poser fairly well but Bryce? It just does not come to me so back to the tutes. Maybe something someday will click.