I'm hoping there is going to be a C4D export feature in P5, like they added onto the Pro Pack. This will probably be the best for your needs too wolf. I don't expect Poser's render is going to be that fast, and Kupa has said it's not going to support dual processors (though hoperfully he was talking only about the Win version). I don't do much animation, but for stills I have to agree that poser rendered in C4D looks way better than rendering in Poser 4, and it's over 8 times faster for me than rendering the same scene in Bryce. In terms of image quality, what I get from Bryce is comparable, it's just so slow. The longest I'm willing to wait is if I start the render when I go to sleep, and it's done when I wake in the morning. Anything that takes longer than that I'm not going to bother with. -Adam