Heh! Don't break a leg trying to d/l the stuff for the readmes. I just threw in a few extra lines. Still, thanks for all the enthusiasm. Movida (name of an Italian band I once photographed) I have no idea where to find a tute on hat modelling. I just mess around until I beat them into shape. What modelling app do you have? Or what hat do you want? (Not promising anything here, but you never know) mac