Boring childish oldfashioned nerdish dragon and fairy stuff Hey, I resemble that remark! ;-) But that's not the point... I hear what you are saying, Rork, but am not sure what the actual goals should be. I'm not sure what real difference it would make if photography and 2d/graphics (incl photoshop, etc) received much, much more attention. Guess it would be nice to have a photographic sponser to contribute nifty prizes, but there may be a dark side to that. Since photo sites are likely my only means to fame (if not fortune), it would be nice if 'osity had a wider photo audience. As it is now, many more people have seen my work (here) than ever before, but I have no real illusions that fifty years from now folks will be still showing the Misha Gallery at this site or any other. However, some folks who contribute here may very well still be viewed generations from now. I think I may go off and search Google for "Photography Gallery," or similar, to see if Renderosity even makes the top 'hundred list. There are some folks here who are really good, and who would like to earn a living from their art. It would be nice if this venue enabled them to be "discovered." As for separation from Poser. Bryce, etc., I personally like the eclectic nature of the 'osity site.