Concerning riversedge post :=) , I just would like to say that plenty of us are using other modelling programs, then composing and rendering with Vue. And we post our work in Vue Gallery. I think there is no real problem to distinguish modelling and rendering question, and which forum to choose to ask a question : modelling is modelling, rendering is rendering . Problem of the choice appears only for import/export mesh purpose. For example, if we have a problem with the import of a Poser mesh, where to ask a question : in the poser or in the Vue forum? I suppose in both :=) I hope this helps, ;=) Yves