Render 1 tells me that she needs a new trans map for her lashes - really badly! Render 3 tells me that the front of the knee (above kneecap) still goes skinny on bend. (Also applies to Don) Render 4 that the hip still folds hopelessly on the front when bent. Render 5 that her armpits still go too far up. Render 6 that her face is too flat, her nose is odd, and she has no cheekbones at all. Don looks really, really good - except for the skinny knee thing at the bottom of the thigh. Hell, he even has rib detail on his sides!! And his hip bends quite well. So Vicki is secure, Mike gets a competitor. I wonder what Judy's buttock does on a 90 deg forward bend? Posette got a big round bag under each thigh that made her completely unusable. :] FishNose