Duane said: "I'd like a default face whose proportions demonstrate a semester's worth of sketching the head at the local community college." So, Duane... what's stopping ye from building one? After all, you could make a killing if you released a 100% anatomically perfect-in-every-sense-to-your-ultimate-satisfaction humanoid mesh, yes? I mean, look at DAZ - they released a butt-ugly-by-default humanoid mesh (The Vickster) with a ton of inherent flaws according to any student of anatomy, yet you can do so much with it, it gets used everywhere, and DAZ ain't exactly hurting for cash. So here's the challenge... build a mesh and market that critter, right here in R'osity - seriously. I'll be first in line to buy it so long as it holds up to stringent cross-study with my wife's unabridged copy of Gray's Anatomy, and you price it reasonably. But until that time, I gotta know something: Where do you get the vantage point from which to be so arrogant, demanding, and deterministic about what Curious Labs should or shouldn't have done with their default model? After all, "Those who can, do..." Fair enough? /P