Thanks Duane, I couldn't figure out what was bothering me about her face and now I know ;). She looks much less like an alien in your fixed image above - quite pretty, in fact. And not to knock Sydd and Co.'s fine textures and morphs, but I'd still like to see the default character mesh (no morphs) with no texturing. I hope there have been some improvements in the joints/etc. but unlike others here, I don't expect miracles and assume there will continue to be some joint problems, I just want to see what the foundation mesh looks like. Also, despite my comments above about the reflection falling apart when it gets recursive, I'm tickled pink to be getting reflections at all - it was just an observation ;).

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