Well, I pre-ordered it, even though there is no release date (never done that before) Be careful when you order though, something wonky is up with the site. If you create a new user account, it drops your order out of the cart, luckily it took the serial # again when I went through and actually was able to order it. Also at one time during the process the shopping cart on the upper left said I had an e version of propack in the cart. But it is ordered according to the receipt, so I am hoping there won't be any issues. So, when is the release date? I can't wait! JDexter