OOOHHhhh...redraw times from coming back from editors to the main interface, I understand now. I haven't really noticed, but that may be beacuse I changed to a fast PC along with B5. Bryce renderer = True Raytracer = long render. Yup, that's just the nature of the thing. Sucks, but the renders can be awesome. This is why other software titles don't do the TRUE Raytracing rendering. Don't blame them... Just don't have any render times gripes right now because I went from a Pentium-1 200mhz to an AMD Athlon XP 1.6ghz (and a GeForce 4 Video Card) So, I'm SO deliriously happy that I'm rendering many, many, many times faster than before, I can't complain at all. Well, not to much, anyway. (I HATE, in B5, how the material libraries will not remember my place with the scroll bar, I have to KEEP scrolling down to get back to where I was, over and over) AgentSmith

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