"The manual isn't exactly the best way to learn how to get the most out of poser, asking questions at forums like this will help you more than the manual." I would tend to agree. For one thing, the Poser 4 manual wasn't adequately proofread... I went thru the custom figure tutorial w/ RayDream & got up to importing the .phi file...It couldn't find the geometry to match node. I went nutso checking the parts & parts names... The culprit was the part of the first line: objFile :Runtime:Geometries..... They typed it this way in the manual... objFile:Runtime:Geometries..... All that aside, CL needs to work on the whole UI a bit. I'm an artist so I think it's not too bad. I use Lightwave, which is as intuitive or more so, IMHO.