Other Software packages that have raytracers rendering engines are not TRUE raytracers, that is why I keep putting that word in all caps. ;o) Other raytracers (Cinema 4D) are made faster beacuse they do approximations of raytracing, but don't go full out. This is because full out (True) raytracing takes a lot longer. (I may be wrong about that, but that is, so far, what I have dug up out about other raytracers) This is just FYI, I'm NOT saying that since Bryce is a True raytracer it looks better than C4D's. If you like C4D, and think it looks better, than go with that. Of course Cinema 4D costs $1,600.00, versus say, buying Bryce 4 online for $80.00...But, of course if you can afford Cinema 4D, building a renderfarm would be no big deal, lol. BUT...I do agree it would be cool if Corel could make options in the Bryce Raytracing engine to manually decrease its "trueness" to increase its speed. Other software raytracers can still look good and be fast, why not Bryce? Updating a True raytracing engine is difficult. As I imagine it, how can you find a faster way of computing "2+2=4" in your own brain? To stay "True" to the formula you can't really take shortcuts. Easiest way is to get a faster brain. `Course that's just off the top of my head. AgentSmith

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