Not to be a smart ass, but I am a big Cinema 4D user, a German company, how about there $500 + upgrade? is it the same in Europe as in the US? How about all those cool British 3D mags, Computer Arts, 3D world, Digit etc? Europe is miles ahead of the US in magazine's (I buy them as often as they come out) Do they not have something to say, CL advertises big time in them and they have offered Poser 3 for free, it seems odd.