If you think Poser is bad you must have never have tried Bryce! That is the only progarm I've ever learned (including Max and Alias) where I was truely lost without the manual. Don't get me wrong though, Poser's interface is piss-poor, I agree, too much wow-'em-at-the-computer-show gloss, sort of like Windows XP and Mac OS-X! Meanwhile, you go blind trying to read the tiny text on the dials.