Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: European Poser 5 Customers = "Dumbass"?

Zed1 opened this issue on Aug 21, 2002 ยท 47 posts


Orio posted Thu, 22 August 2002 at 4:57 AM

to Wolfgang: you wrote: "If a market works - prices come down." This can be true if there's competition on a market. But take ProPack. I was unable to get it from anywhere else than the distributor. Buying online from CL was not allowed. Buying from Amazon, Beyond etc. was not allowed. There was no other distributor in Italy that distributed it, only Pico could. And they set a final street price of more than 70% more than the US price. In England too, you couldn't find a place that sold ProPack for a better price. I have read reports that in Sweden the price of ProPack was doubled compared to the US. In France the situation was slightly better (price increase somewhere between +50% and +55%), but then if you buy there you'd get a French version of the software. In such conditions, you have a de facto monopoly in most European countries, where CL does not want to compete with the distributors, placing limits on Internet availability of the products, and where there is no competition between distributors, because distributors have exclusivity on their country sales and they don't want to lower the prices for Internet sales competition because that would damage them more than do them any good. This is how ProPack was distributed through most Europe. And where there's monopoly there can not be competition on prices. Now I'll be very happy to see that this had changed for Poser 5, but the first incoming signals are not encouraging. to Norbert: I see you too are a fine gentleman. Well this is a discussion forum, and things here get discussed. Including pricing policies, because whoever is or will be a paying customer has the "privilege" to discuss a price if he sees that the policy is not right to his opinion. Everything can be discussed in a democratic environment as long as the manners are polite (and yours certainly aren't). So if you don't like discussion and you don't like what you read, you just hit a browser button and go elsewhere on the site. Renderosity is big and has many many pages to visit. to JB: I don't want to hurt CuriousLabs or anyone else. I just want to buy Poser 5 at a fair price. A price that, after VAT, is bigger of 78% compared to the US price is NOT a fair price, period. Then there could be (or could not be) reasons for that, but the simple point is clear. to Rob: I agree, Poser 5 is sold at a very very good price, in the USA. Not so in Europe, whatever the reasons.