Well, much as I laud your efforts Zed, I don't think we stand a chance of getting a cheaper price out of CL or Egi.sys. They'll have worked out thier pricing months ago, comissioned advertising, printed marketing "bumf", etc. We're not getting it cheap, (well, not as cheap as the Yanks) no matter how much we bitch, whine or plead. Ain't that right Wolfgang? Like I said, I'm going to wait, I suggest you do likewise. In a few months, it'll be going far cheaper, then of course there's always Ebay :) later jb