What I'm asking for is how to create my own dte's ...you have 3 windows that combine to form a material in the dte...I'm assuming there is no way to bring in your own images and create your own dte's You have to just randomize everything until you get what you want is the way I've done it up until now and this seems a little to slow and awkward. Maybe I'm missing something...it's been known to happen..hehe.. Hawkfyr...what you're describing sounds more like the regular materials editor which I use extensively with jpg's...I didn't realize the bmp...transparency issue and I do appreciate that tip. that might help me solve some problems I've had with some textures.