I fixed the problems. Whew! I uploaded the update just now. I figured out that I needed to update the .cr2 and include that. If you followed my original instructions, the .cr2 would include the original Vicki textures so after renaming them in UVMapper, the stupid things kept showing up in Poser anyway. The remap doesn't look bad with the Lance texture, but it needs a bit of postwork on the mustache. The biggest problem I've seen is that some of the texture creators really don't stay within the lines, so I had to compromise a lot. I also tweaked the upper lips so the lip textures don't bleed as much. (It made a huge difference on some textures!) and the upper eyebrows look a bit better - more symmetrical. I didn't see much of a problem with the lower lips with the textures I have, so I left those alone. The .zip files, with the .cr2 files included, are now easier to use. I'm not sure I want to do a pure Vic2Mike as Vic2Steff is really close. My next insanity is going to be Mike2Vic - which I've wanted to do for a long time. The real reason I did this wasn't the bribe (no offense, Eowyn, though the bribe was gratefully accepted!) but to get my courage up to try this. I figured if I publically accepted the challenge, I'd have to find a way to do it. And if I could do Vic2Steff, I could do Mike2Vic. Steff2Vic, Vic2Steff, Posette2Vic, Mike2Vic, these Poser people are so confused! ;-) Thanks again for all the encouragement and for teaching me new things! It is soooo past my bedtime! Cres