Whoaaa, wait a minute? Can I ask the Mac users a question here, in all seriousness: Browser crashes can bring the whole MAC system down, forcing a reboot?? I run a sickingly huge arsenal of apps on my WIN2K-Pro machines, and while I can't say the apps have never crashed (although rare), I CAN say not one of them has EVER brought the system down. My machines are on 24/7 and reboots are far and few between. (Win95 or 98 is another story altogether though.) Charlie: Actually, I have seen Red Dwarf once or twice, but so long ago I don't remember much about it. It was a quirky (in a good way) BBC Sci-Fi show from the 80's right? Has a cult following I know. Care to clue me in?