Gerald, Now I'm gonna have to do chord hand poses ? It was hard enough to learn them for real . . . lets see "G" um "A" eh "D" no that's not it. this could be hard. E Am D Am . . . yeah thats it - this could be fun Thanks, Gerald. bikermouse wanders off into the woods looking for a campfire and strumming the chords to Bethoven's 5th Symphony (first movement). . . . c7 c7 c7 (lower one octive and looonger)c7 ... fades into the trees contemmplating a half remembered tune about Valkyries and Wagner. - TJ (bikermouse)