chohole thanks for the offer of the manual I may just take you up on it if all else fails.

tommy I checked out the help section but it wasn't very helpful and didn't contain a link to user guide unfortunatly. I also got the updater and advanced manual from the url you mention, but being completely new to poser I was going to leave that for a while.
As for emailing the manual, you're probably right that it would infringe copyright, its just a shame that Digit mag didn't include it like computer arts did.

Anyhow thanks both for your help so far, I'm sure I'll be back for some more soon.

Grey