thing is, I'm not on a Dial Up.. I'm on a cable modem.. as are the other 80 odd users.. as for the only ppl really hurt.. well I have images in the gallery that are copyrighted to me... I don't like the idea of not being able to access the site I have posted them on.. btw.. shall we start a new thread for this? I think we've hijacked this one... oops! Kai