the propack has never worked correctly for me since day one... and i am not the only max user with the problem.. i have had numerous discussions with light wave users as well. and i am confused as to why we were duped into purchasing a product that is so buggy. conans maximum pose works in the same principle as the propack. it hosts the poser file in max i might add that i am receiving no monetary compensation whatsoever in my endorsement of his product. i am merely staging an uprising agains curiuslabs, for making us spend money on a product that has never worked.... might i add that as to my knowledge. the propack still cant install itself properly......... here is the website to conans products... but last i saw there was no version for lightwave available sorry dude http://innuendo.ev.ca/products.htm