Thanks for the compliment, but all I have are a few trinkets. But its a start. Ok, I kinda agree with you and will wait to see what others say, including some scans of the copyright forum. Just wanted to dot my I's and cross my T's. I'm trying to put up a glass cup that is not the subject of this post and eitehr osity went down on the aborted upload or I did something horrendous to get locked out for a few hours.