Tip if you are using free textures and/or low res textures-- Rdna has for about $10 a package called bump and grind that are multipurpose bump maps-- they really change and amp up free textures-- and pricey ones too. Yup, an inexpensive Mil lowres figure, the Vicki clothing pack and one hair thingey, maybe. There are some very good free hairstyles now in FS, including what was lacking, good long hair. If you can find a bargain, the Vicki1 CD is not a bad buy-- Awhile back someone was selling both MIke and Vicki 1 cds for under $70 which I'm assuming is around 50 pounds. Emily Emily