OH gee, Carolly, I'm sorry, but not everyone does things the way you describe. I never use my body parts to measure anything. I use rulers, tape measures, etc. You make many assumptions about how people operate when it comes to measurements. I was frankly surprised by that. And no, I don't feel defective because I don't "work" the way you describe. I couldn't tell you how far I park from the curb, and I never measure fabric. If I did, I would use the trusty tape measure. I can't tell you how far it is from work to home unless I set the odometer to do the job for me. I couldn't tell you the dimensions of a beer bottle or milk carton. And just how could you set such items to 2/3 the size of a ruler? I don't see a "size by comparison" feature in Poser. (Ex: Make this item 2/3 the size of another item. Come to think of it, Poser doesn't work in fractions, but in percentages.) I finally decided to use a ruler to measure some household items. The problem? I don't have milk cartons in the house right now. I don't feel like measuring a pile of dog poop. *** I just love ernyoka1's work, and am grateful for the freebies. I just need a way to make it all work properly for me. That means I need some constructive assistance. I did finally figure how to use Roy G's ruler. It does help a lot. I just need to run around and take measurements of things I don't use every day. Come to think of it, I haven't been to Burger King lately.