With all due respect to everyone here...for I am not trying to defend, or ridicule anyone...or even debate about this at all...but I do have to say a few things here...this username somehow rings a bell...I don't know why but there is a certain familiarity about it that is uncanny....seems a lot of that happens here these days...old names re-apearing...time and time again...always "new" members...but old names re-used??...like there's folks about that are old and knowledgable and feel like saying whatever...but too afraid or whatever to speak AS THEMSELVES...??...so they pick out old usernames...??...I don't really get it...but I DO know this name...it is NOT new....yet it is... Now...as for Poser 5 and Macs...I happen to adore Macs...and PC's....unfortunatly as things do go...Mac platforms do many times have to wait longer....it really isn't fair in some ways because Macs are even more known for Graphics than PC's in many areas... Then...on the other hand...look at 3DMax...is there even a Mac version at all..?? People need to chill...debate...harmless debate...should be a part of a forum...I have not read these posts talked about...if this person has indeed foul mouthed others to sustain his/her penchants to portray verbal illness about Poser 5 and Macs...then you folks are right to complain....on the other hand...I have been following a lot of the Poser 5 threads too...and I have noticed a certain edgyness..touchiness....a real short fuse if someone even says "boo" or jests or says something even remotely derogatory about Poser 5 or Curioslabs these days....like come on people...it is great to love and adore a program....but it is just a tool of anticipation...what the heck would happen if this program actually has some bugs at first...(heavens...ya know it does happen)...would we all have to clone ourselves for fear of speaking up... and getting hung up to dry after getting tarred and feathered...?? Cheers