heyas; if you have two or more root pieces, they can be dragged around independantly. so if your base is the root piece (ie: the 'hip') and the ring bit is not its child, you would be able to drag that off anywhere you want. make sure in phi builder, you have dragged the ring bit onto the base bit, to create the parent-child relationship. you're going along fine for creating a figure from here. first you do the phi and poser's 'convert hier file,' which you've done. (but try again, with the proper hierarchy). then in poser you do the jps, and the bend on/off. also do the material settings while you're there. save to the library. (save often while you're doing the jps, poser likes to crash while you're doing those.) then do the cr2 editing (you can get a cr2 editor at the posertech yahoo group, not to be confused with posertech.com.) to do the hidden dial trick, like phil said. once all that is done, you can do cleanups like naming the rotation dials and setting rotation limits. then just arrange the lights and camera to get a nice image of your model, and save it to the library with its final name. and you're done! (sounds easy, huh? ;) )