Ryan: Thanks for the info! (BTW, everyone, I've talked to Ryan on several occassions and he is good man). "We've got big plans for Mimic ..." Oh boy, you opened up a can of worms with that one. ;-) Yes, the "1 of the 12" (or sometimes "1 of 12") references the lack of animators and/or the lack of support for animators (contests, support, software, forumns, etc.) Take care, Tim (1 of the 12: co-founder)