Lance, We are going to see a whole lot of bragging posts the minute people come home and open the box with Poser 5. however, within a couple of days after release, we are going to start seeing a whole lot of "help me" posts followed by people piling in to help. The Hair Room is going to present a rat's nest of surprises or I miss my guess (and my pun). Some folks will get a Rapunzel braid down the tower and pooling gracefully below, but for each such artist, there will be 99 others pulling out their real hair in frustration at the inability to get fuzz on anything other than a sphere. (And, yes, one of the very first things I'm going to try when I get my fingers on this program is to see just how long I can grow it!) Other folks have probably already taken digital pictures of their family and are impatiently waiting to turn their kids, cats, and muskrats (and former spouses?) into 3D figures... and then they are going to pull up short at the Face Room with little green and red dots. Textures are going to be combined of layers. We'll still have the precision of UVMapping for embroidery or wallpaper, but now we can have flocked velvet, or orange peel, or rusted chain mail, too. Folks who have used shaders in Bryce or similar programs won't have too much of a problem, but others might need a bit of hand-holding until they get used to it. So, I fully expect the supportiveness of the community to come forth again, when needed, and that will be when people start asking for help and others eager to share reach out to them. Carolly