YOu know what I really wish people in this community would grow the hell up. So what if people are posting every five seconds about Poser. Why do you have to make a big deal about it? Plan and simple this forum isn't here to serve YOUR needs. If people feel like talking about it then they will. If you don't like a post, a series of posts or the entire forum, then be a big boy and ignore it. That's what the rest of us do. If you really want to bash people for being excited about Poser 5 and want everyone to agree with you then maybe you should head over to PoserSnobs, they have a nice thread about that woke me up to the fact, that some folks aint happy unless they can bitch about what the other guys are doing. PS: Is your name really Lance Hawk? Mine is Lance Crowe. Wierd.