I am as guilty as ayone about bieng excited about this program, however.....since I render in Cinema 4D, what good is a new rederer(Spelling)? to me? Hair? cool, but one can get wodnerfull free hair downloads from digital babes among others, whatever the hair is it can't be much better then the DB freebies. New characters? Also cool except we already have Vickie 1 and 2 and countless 3rd party variations on vickie and whomever. I just want the face thing so I can finally get my 3D version of Pamala Anderson with a sword, and if anyone elso out there does Pamala Anderson with a sword I will sue for stealing my completely original Idea!!!! I mean that too!! someon is always taking my ideas!!!