Momcat I disagree. Pre orders, orders, or back orders are not charged until the company ships the item. Go to Amazon or any other company with an Internet presence. Every time I've looked they state that accounts are not charged until the item is shipped. Jackson, What, to you, made it clear? To me at the very least it is an ethical issue. It's not unheard of for companies, even very large companies to in fact, suddenly sink and take their customers and investors money with them. Does Enron or Worldcom ring a bell? How about the sudden disapperance of MetaCreations, right in the middle of an essential bug fix for a previous version of Poser?